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BAUMANN, SEUBERT, HUBLER, KIRSCH, SHOEMIG, WACKER (WALKER)
Posted by: Gloria Goodman (ID *****8451) Date: July 28, 2003 at 14:21:14
In Reply to: Baumann in Queens,NYC by Andrew Seubert of 621

I'm trying to connect all this. Thanks for any help in putting the pieces of this puzzle together.

NAME: Margaretha Seubert
SPOUSE:Johann Lorenz Wacker, abt 1860, Salmsdorf,Germany

BIRTH RECORD:
Born February 2, 1838, Gleisenau, Bavaria

SIBLINGS:
At time of death sister Mrs. Sophia Kirsch of Brooklyn, NY; brother Adam
Scubert (Seubert) of Germantown, NY; brother John Scubert (Seubert) of Germany. Resided in Bolton, Clinton, Leominster (Worcester County) MA

CEMETERY RECORDS.
Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery, 62-29 Metropolitan Ave., Middle Village, NY 11379.
Tel: 718-821-1750-1, Fax: 718-497-2750

Headstones read as follows:
Fredrick Kirsch, March 3, 1854 - December 10, 1887
His wife Barbara, October 30, 1845 - December 9, 1919
GeorgeBaumann,
1873-1947
LouiseBaumann, 1876-1960

Letter from The Lutheran All Faiths Cemetery to Charles Tilgner III 3/18/02
Below is a list of internments in Lot 13657 Map 3A, registered owner Babetta
Kirsch, deed dated January 11, 1888. Easterly one-half of lot assigned June 29,
1893 to Margareth Kirsch.

August(a) Kirsch, age 4 months, 15 days, place of death 32 Montrose Ave.
Brooklyn, NY, interred August 1, 1881. Disinterred to above lot April 13, 1888
from Public Lot 16, Map 3A, Row 29, Grave 67.

Augusta Kirsch Death Certificate 8788
Department of Health of the City of Brooklyn
32 Montrose Ave., Brooklyn, Ward 16
Father's birthplace-Germany
Mother's birthplace-Germany
Cause of death cholera infantum
Time from attack til death 6 days.
Certificate delivered to Frederick Kirsch

Minette Kirsch, age 9 months, 25 days, place of death 32 Montrose Ave.,
Brooklyn, NY, interred July 10, 1883. Disinterred to above lot April 13, 1888
from Public Lot 16, Map 3A, Row 29, Grave 67.

Minette Kirsch Death Certificate 7214
Department of Health of the City of Brooklyn
32 Montrose Ave., Brooklyn, Ward 16
Father's birthplace-Germany
Mother's birthplace-Germany
Cause of death meningits

August C. Hubler, age 42 years, 10 months, 24 days, place of death 59 Grand
Street, NY. Interred September 10, 1883. Disinterred to above lot November 4,
1901 from Public Lot 18, Map 3a, Row 40, Grave 35.

Frederick Kirsch, age 33 years, 9 months, 7 days, place of death 42 Montrose
Ave., Brooklyn, NY. Interred December 13, 1887.

Certificate of Death:
Department of Health of The City of Brooklyn 16149
Full Name: Friederich Kirsch
Age: 33 yrs, 9 mos, 7 days
Birthplace: Germany
Occupation: Truckman
How long in US: 17 years
How long resident in City: 13 years
Place of Death: 42 Montrose Ave, Brooklyn, Ward 16
No. of Families in House: 8
On what floor: 1
Died: December 10, 1887
Cause of Death: Meningitis Cerebralis/Apoplexia
Time from attack till Death: 8 days

Ferdinand Schnier, age 1 year, 1 month, place of death 84 Lorimer St., Brooklyn,
NY, interred October 8, 1888.

Michael Kirsch, age 32 years, 11 months, place of death 93 Leonard St. Brooklyn,
NY, interred January 15, 1893.

Michael Kirsch Death Certificate
Coroner's Certificate of Death 661, Jos. M. Creamer, MD Died January 12, 1893
Birthplace-Germany, Occupation-Truckman
Father's birthplace-Germany
Mother's birthplace-Germany
How long in US-2 years
How long resident in City-2 years
Cause of death fatty degeneration of the heart and heart failure following
exertion.

August C. Hubler, age 20 years, 5 days, place of death 93 Leonard St., Brooklyn,
NY, interred April 6, 1893.
1880 FEDERAL CENSUS
Hubler, August, Self, M, 1844, 36 SWI, SWI, SWI, Architech
Hoffman, Mary, MIL, W, 1824. 56, SWI, SWI, SWI, Servant
Hubler, Margaret,Wife, M, 1846, 34, SWI, SWI, SWI, Keeps House
Hubler, August, Son, S, 1873, 7, NY, SWI, SWI, At School
Hubler, Otto, Son, S, 1876, 4, NY, SWI, SWI
Hubler, Louise, Dau, S, 1878, 2, NY, SWI, SWI

Ann E. Lehmann, age 57 years, 11 months, place of death 230 Eldridge St., NY,
interred June 23, 1904.

Margaretha Kirsch, age 57 years, 10 months, 23 days, place of death Ridgewood,
Queens Cty, NY, interred March 9, 1913.
Death Certificate
Department of Health of The City of New York, Bureau of Record #778 Date of
Death: March 6, 1913
Place of Death: Borough of Queens, *** Stanhope Street, Tenement Color, White;
Widowed
Date of Birth April 13, 1855; Age 57 yrs., 10 mos., 23 days
Birthplace: Germany
Name of Father: John Hoffman(n)
Birthplace of Father: France
Maiden name of Mother: Julia Marki
Birthplace of Mother: France
Cause of Death: Chronic Hepatitis
Contributory: Cardia Asthemia
Place of burial: Lutheran Cemetery
Date of burial: March 9, 1913
Daughter: Anna Bauman
How long in country: 42 yrs; How long in City of NY: 42 yrs.

1900 FEDERAL CENSUS
Margaret Kirsch found in:
Census Microfilm Records: New York, 1900
Lived in: 16 Ward New York, Kings County, New York
Series: T623 Microfilm: 1053 Book: 1 Page: 271
54 Montrose Avenue
Kirsch, Margaret, Head, Apr 1854, 46, Wd, Germ, Germ, Germ
Kirsch, Otto, Son, Feb 1876, 24, S, NY, Germ, Germ
Margaret em 1880, in US 20 yrs; 3 children-2 living
Otto’s occupation listed as Optician

Barbara Beisel, age 74 years, place of death Kingslea (illegible) Hospital, Brooklyn, NY, interred December 12, 1919. WOULD LIKE TO FIND HOSPITAL and OBITUARY.
Anna Barbara Vetter b. 23Oct1845, Salmsdorf, Germany
Husbands:
#1-Johann Sebastian Wacker (Walker), b.21Jan1839, Salmsdorf
Note: The Wacker family settled in Kingston (Ulster Cty) NY except for Lorenz who, shortly after arriving in the US moved to Massachussets.
#2-Frederick Kirsch b.3Mar1854
#3-John Beisel, b. 23May1891, Germany

George Baumann, age 74 years, 3 months, place of death Wade Hospital, Brooklyn, NY, interred December 17, 1947.

Louise Baumann, age 83 years, place of death Irwin Nursing Home, Queens County, NY, interred July 14, 1960.

ANY IDEA ON WHERE I CAN OBTAIN GEORGE AND LOUISE'S OBITS?

Certificate of Death, The City of New York
Certificate No. 156-60-408105 Filed July 13
Name of Deceased: Louise Baumann
Usual Residence: New York, Queens, Kew Gardens 15 No. 124-16 84th Avenue
Length of Residence or Stay in NY immediately prior to death: Life
Date of Birth: Not filled in
Age: 83 years
Occupation: Housewife-Own Home
SS: None
Birthplace: New York, NY
Citizen: U.S.
Name of Father: August Hubler
Name of Mother: Mary Baker
Name of Informant: Mrs. Jos. Shoemig, daughter, 124-16 84th Avenue, Kew Gardens
Name of Cemetery: Lutheran, Middle Village, LI, Burial July 14, 1960
Funeral Director: Walsh Funeral Home, 94-08 118th Street, Richmond Hill, NY
Place of Death: Queens, Irwin Nursing Home
Date and Hour of Death: July 10, 1960 9 AM
Sex: F; Color: W; Approximate Age: 84
Attended deceased 7/9/60-9/10/60-Last saw alive 5 PM, July 9
Death by Natural Causes
Dr. Herman Brenner, 57-40 255th Street, Little Neck, NY

Note: Per Charles Tilgner III dated 4/18/02.
"When I received the list from the cemetery I also received a note that there
was $27 due for taxes from 1983 thru 1988 which I happily paid. It was a NY State tax on graves not under perpetual care and was ended in 1988. I also asked them if they knew who paid the taxes up to 1983. This is the reply which
you may find useful?"

"In reply to your inquiry regarding payment of back taxes, our records indicate
the names of Mrs. George Bauman, 124-16 85 Avenue, Richmond Hill, NY and Mr. Joseph Schoenig or Schoemig*, 245 Alta Vista Street, DeBary, FL 32713 as having paid for lot tax from 1963 to 1982. However, we are unable to determine which person paid for a particular year."




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