Posted By:Al
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Subject:Re: James H Norman 1846-1934 b. Carroll Co. GA
Post Date:March 03, 2009 at 13:13:18
Message URL:http://genforum.genealogy.com/ga/carroll/messages/1651.html
Forum:Carroll County, GA Genealogy Forum
Forum URL:http://genforum.genealogy.com/ga/carroll/

I am not related.

Here are suggestions for learning the maiden name of Caroline Norman, plus finding an abstract of the marriage license:

Get a copy of her Texas death certificate. The death certificate gives the father's name as well as the mother's maiden name if they are known by the informant. Get the certificate for James H. Norman also as it contains genealogical data you may not have. Images of Texas certificates for that period can be found using the search engine at http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html and the images can be viewed on-line and downloaded (Search clue: Her name is Calline on his certificate. His name is John on her certificate).

Using the search engine at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp you can find an abstract of their Carroll County, Georgia marriage license taken from county records. The bride's maiden name is spelled slightly different than that found on the death certificate but this should not be of concern as the name is a variation of that found on the death certificate. This is something that genealogists are often faced with. (Search clue: Search on his name only).

I could just tell you the name but that's no fun at all.

A copy of the marriage license may be obtained by writing the Carroll County Clerk of Court, 323 Newnan Street, Carrollton, Georgia 30117. If you inquire by mail, include a self-addressed stamped envelope. Expect to pay a small fee.

With regard to the military service of James H. Norman, the National Parks Service Soldiers and Sailors site at http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.cfm was searched and three possibilities were noted: J. Norman, sergeant, Company F, 1st Georgia Reserves (Fannin's); James H. Norman, private, Company I, 7th Georgia Infantry (State Guards); and James Norman, private, Company D, 29th Battalion, Georgia Cavalry.

The first one enlisted in Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia but resided in Carroll County. The second enlisted in Carrollton, Carroll County, Georgia and resided in Carroll County. The last one enlisted in Schley County, residence unknown, but it's possible that this could be the same person as the second. If you have information as to the name of his unit you may wish to order a copy of his Military Service Record from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). If you are unfamiliar with the process, you can get guidance at http://www.archives.gov/veterans/military-service-records/pre-ww-1-records.html. Scroll down to "How to Order Older Military Service or Pension Records."

If you are unsure about the unit, it would probably be better to obtain his and her pension applications from the Texas State Library and Archives. I checked and they both are there. Go to the pension search page at http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/arc/pensions/index.php and note the application numbers. I don't see an ordering process on-line so I suppose that you would need to contact the Reference Desk to find out how to proceed in obtaining copies of the pension applications. See http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/ask.html for phone or e-mail contact information.

In case you didn't know, the thirteen ex-Confederate States had a reciprocal agreement to grant pensions to ex-Confederate soldiers from any of these states whenever the state of residence changed. NARA does not have Confederate pensions.

The pension applications should contain the name of a unit. Then you might have the necessary information to request a copy of the service record from NARA. It was necessary to qualify this statement because of passage of time from the War until the application for a pension, about thirty-five to forty-five years. Old folks have a propensity to forget details.

If you have problems with any of the links post a reply and I will try to help.