|Posted By:||Gail Trail|
|Subject:||Re: Traells of Dundee abt. 1600|
|Post Date:||February 06, 2006 at 23:08:07|
|Forum:||Trail Family Genealogy Forum|
Thank you for this posting, George. I wonder if you are looking at a different set of records or at the Tayside maritime history site.
There were definite connections of the Trail Merchant families and the shipping in and out of Dundee. Finding the facts about these Dundee area people cost Elsie a lot of time and effort and money for documents. She deserves a big "Thank you! from us Trails for all her work." Thanks, Elsie!!Elsie has studied these families well and can give the details better, but this is a little summary.
Thomas, and Christopher were burgesses who had the right to import goods from other countries. Their brother John of Leggisland in Monifieth, a burgess, was also a Baillie of Dundee and a smith, and owned property in the city. There was a fourth brother, James, whom the family helped out financially according to the records. They were sons of Alexander Traill and Geilis Nicolson. Alexander owned a tenement in Dundee. The Geilis Trail who lived in Aberdeen probably was Alex and Geilis' daughter. She married an Andrew Young in Aberdeen in 1579 but appears to have died in childbirth as Andrew soon married again. Youngs were also in shipping and appear in records with the Traills. There are continued relations in later marriages in St. Andrews.
In the next generation one daughter of Christopher (who had no sons) married John Goldman, a burgess who imported wine and is listed in the Tayside Maritime History site which is where this information is available by digging a bit. John Traill's daughter Elspeth Trail married Robert Rollo /Rollok who was a burgess in similar wine importation business, appearing in the records. The extended Rollo family was involved, as John Rollo owned his own ship, plus dealt in Wine as a Burgess. In 1612 the "Margaret" came from the Orkneys to Dundee with 3,400 dried fish, brought by Burgess David Rollo.
Thomas Trail's son John the younger also was in the wine importing business, as well as John's wife's family, the Rankines. In 1614 that John came from Bordeaux on the same ship "Margaret" with "Item thrie twnis and ane half twn tewnis wyne ptening to Johne traill. Item to him sex pecis of land wyne ane twn of vinagre 2 brellis pruindames."
Back earlier to the Monifieth area north east of Dundee, a possible brother of Alexander was Robert Traill who had a daughter Elena born to him in 1562/63 in Monifieth parish. Robert may have gone to Edinburg or elsewhere. I suspect he is the grandfather or father of the Robert there who married Janet Dunning and became a citizen & merchant of Edinburg. The younger Robert's son Robert married Margaret Traill, the daughter of the John and Isobell (Rankine) Traills above. And the earliest Robert may also be the grandfather or father of a John Traill who had a daughter Helen in 1616 in next door Monikie, and of the William Trealle who was father of Andrew, Robert and John in Monifieth. Andrew is found marrying in Monikie in 1653. Robert and John are the subjects of our current scrutiny as being Robert of Delaware and a John Treale who came either in 1662 or 1675 from Virginia.