Larry: You need to see y book "German Speaking People West of The Catawba River in nC 1750-1800" which can be found in many libraries, even more than The Shoe Cobbler's Kin. Your family was not a part of ours. Not sure about the origins, but what I have on them is pretty detailed. If you can't find this book email to firstname.lastname@example.org and request a flyer.
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