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Re: Hanwell family trees (several).
Posted by: john Gooch Date: October 03, 2001 at 01:18:24
In Reply to: Re: Hanwell family trees (several). by Nancy Hanwell Honea of 43

Dear Nancy
Please forgive me for getting excited but this has to be my best breakthrough yet! I can think of too many questions at the moment so will try to be restrained.
(1) I completely agree with your family listing for the children of Richard and Sarah Ann. However I have one queery over the James born 1834 who died in childhood. You see, on the wedding certificate of George Jupp and Eliza there are two witnesses listed: James Hanwell and Eleanor Louise Hanwell. As there is no Eleanor as sister I had always hoped she was the wife of James born 1834. There is a marriage of a James and an Eleanor Louise listed for Dec 1858 but I do not think I ahve got the certificate -I will check later. If however the 1834 james died young the second james would have been a little young to be married. Any thoughts?
2) I include below the 1881 census entry for George Jupp & family. You can see that Richard gives his place of birth as St Martins in Middlesex -which neatly ties in with (but is unproven) an IGI birth entry for a Richard born 1803 in St Martins.

PRO Ref       RG11              Folio 90 page 12
168 Derby Buildings, St Pancras, London, Middlesex
JUPP              George              Head       M       37       Plasterer                     Brighton
JUPP              Emma              W       M       36       Wife                     St Pancras/MDSX
JUPP              Eliza              D              13       Scholar              St Pancras
JUPP              George              S              12       Scholar St Pancras
JUPP              Richard              S              8       Scholar St Pancras
JUPP              Horace              S              7       Scholar St Pancras
JUPP              Ernest              S              4              Scholar St Pancras
JUPP              Henry              S              2                     Scholar St Pancras
HANWELL       Richard              Father in Law       W       78       ex-Plasterer              St Martins/MDSX
3) Is your Freddie the Frederick H Hanwell living with wife Annie in St Pancras (Crowndale Rd) in the 1881 census? (There is a 2 yr old son Richard)
I think that is enough for the moment or this message will become too long but I look forward to hearing more from you. Perhaps you could let me know how your line decends.

Regards John
PS I knew we had Jupp descendalts in the US but never realised we had Hanwell connections, however tenuous.


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