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I didnt know Thomas was his first name or what emma's name was but I believe this is my grandmother's family. my Grandmother's mom was Marie or Mary Withrow .. Dont remember right now. One of Victoria Jane's children with worth. I know he was married twice to an emma king and an octavia troutman, his first marriage produced 6 children and second marriage produced 6 and between him and his second wife they hade 18. Second wife had 6 of her own. On Ancestry.com in the messages boards it will give you their names somewhere. I was told by older family members who knew Victoria and Her Daughter that, the menser's started in ky moved to Shawnee or Pawnee OK, Victoria was Indian and supposedly married off the reservation in OK, and then moved to Ark, where my Grandmother was born. Mary or Marie had a nick name of Jewell and died in a car accident in Garland Co. when my mother was A baby. My grandmother's family have a picture of both the headstones for Marie and Victoria Jane somewhere as well as picture of Victoria Jane and her Children.... I would like to know what information you also have on this family. I have been looking for a long time.... Always Laura
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