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Re: Ashe Co., NC Phipps
Posted by: Steven Phipps (ID *****1633) Date: October 29, 2009 at 20:03:08
In Reply to: Re: Ashe Co., NC Phipps by Russell Phipps of 3025

Hi Russell,

I've come across references to Solomon Phipps of Charlestown, MA many times over the years. I would think that there might be some relation to the Quaker PA line. From what I've seen of DNA results and from what little I know about it, the two lines don't appear to be very similar genetically, yet at least some of the MA Phippses have Reading, Berkshire roots, and so does the Quaker Phipps line.

There's a Phipps DNA study web page here, run by Steven Perkins (you might want to contact him): http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Phipps-Y-DNA/default.aspx If you click on the "Y-DNA Results" link on the left, you can see DNA results for several Phipps lines. In addition, there's another page here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~scperkins/PhippsDNA.html that includes DNA results specifically for the Solomon Phipps of Charlestown, MA line.

I don't know much about DNA either, but if you compare the numbers, you can see that few of those associated with the Solomon Phipps line appear to match those of a descendant of Joseph Phipps from Reading, Berkshire, England.

I thought, however, that I recently came across a Phipps lineage descending from Reading, Berkshire, England that connects with Massachusetts. I'm trying to find it in my records now, but so far haven't come up with it.

I guess you know that Solomon is said to have been an immigrant ancestor, and that he was a carpenter. I wonder if it could be significant that Sir William Phips, first colonial governor of Massachusetts, had been a carpenter too - a ship's carpenter.

Well, here's one web page that refers to the link between Reading, Berkshire, England and Massachusetts: http://www.berkshirehistory.com/bios/cphipps.html

Toward the bottom of the page, the author mentions that Sir William Phips (first MA colonial governor and supposedly inventor - really developer - of the diving bell) was a cousin of Sir Constantine Phipps. That's a line with Reading, Berkshire, England roots.

My DNA results seem to suggest a connection between the Ashe Co., NC Phippses and the Quaker Phippses of PA, and the Quaker Phippses of PA descend from Reading, Berkshire, England. Further, the page I just mentioned (and other documents I've seen about the Constantine Phipps line) seem to suggest that the MA Phippses (or at least some of them) descend from Reading, Berkshire, England.

Family Search Community Trees at http://histfam.familysearch.org/ , which is a Family Search Labs project (as differentiated from the regular Family Search website) also includes info on this Constantine Phipps line. (Just type Phipps into the opening search box.)

I think there may be a connection somewhere. I'm wondering whether there might be a clue in one of the old genealogical and local history books in Google Books - I've been finding lots of stuff in old public domain books there. If you go to www.google.com and click on "more," then Google Books, and search for "Solomon Phipps" in quotation marks with Charlestown added, you'll come up with a number of old books that don't seem to show up by just doing a regular web search, and they're adding more books all the time.

I'll do some more looking and will let you know if I turn up anything.


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