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TEXAS RAMIREZES JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL LINE
Posted by: carlos ramirez (ID *****5721) Date: March 12, 2003 at 23:25:10
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NEW INFO TO SHARE. FROM THE TREES AT http://pulido2000.com
JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL RAMIREZ'S MOTHER'S PARENTS WERE 2ND COUSINS THROUGH THE NAVARRO AND JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL RAMIREZ AND HIS SECOND WIFE MATIANA HINOJOSA WERE 3RD COUSINS THROUGH THE TREVINO. ALSO ANTONIA ARREDONDO, JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL RAMIREZ'S FIRST WIFE'S PARENTS ARE PATRICIO ARREDONDO AND PHELIPA BRISENO. AND THERE IS A LINE OF ARREDONDO'S GOING BACK TO A HERNANDO ARREDONDO A HISTORICAL PERSON IN THE EARLY HISTORY OF COHUILA. AND FOR JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL RAMIREZ'S FATHER ANTONIO RAMIREZ HIS RECORD IS LISTED AS BORN ABT 1686 SALTILLO. HIS PARENTS ARE MIGUEL RAMIREZ AND BERNARDINA MARQUINA. THERE ARE NO OTHER MARQUINA LISTINGS IN NORTHERN MEXICO. THE ONLY MIGUEL RAMIREZ FROM THAT TIME PERIOD IN THE DATABASE IS MIGUEL RAMIREZ BORN 9 APR 1645 YURIRIA, GUANAJUATO AND HIS PARENTS ARE AUGUSTIN RAMIREZ AND MONICA QUENTZE.THERE ARE NO OTHER RAMIREZ LISTINGS FOR NORTHERN MEXICO IN THE SALTILLO OR MONTERREY AREA BEFORE ANTONIO RAMIREZ AND JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL RAMIREZ EXCEPT FOR A MIGUEL RAMIREZ BORN 1710 WITH NO OTHER INFO. COULD THIS BE JOSE CRISTOBAL RAMIREZ'S BROTHER? A WHILE BACK A RAMIREZ WROTE ME THAT THEIR LINE BEGAN WITH A XPTBAL RAMIREZ IN MONTERREY AROUND 1830. AND THE RAMIREZ LINE IN MONTERREY BEGINS WITH THIS XPTBAL. WAS THIS JOSE CRISTOBAL XPTOBAL RAMIREZ'S FIRST SON? OR HIS NEPHEW? EITHER WAY THIS WOULD MAKE ALL RAMIREZ FROM NORTHERN MEXICO ARE RELATED. THERE IS ALSO A MIGUEL RAMIREZ RECORD STATING BORN 1732 NUEVO LEON WITH NO OTHER INFO. ANOTHER NEPHEW? IN MY ORIGINAL SCAN OF RAMIREZ FOR EARLY NORTHEN MEXICO THERE WAS ONLY ONE OTHER RAMIREZ LISTING AND IT WAS IN THE VICINITY OF EASTERN NUEVO LEON.
OTHER LINKS TO SHARE ARE
http://vsalgs.org/#top
this contains i think all the other links
http://www.familysearch.org
click ancestral file and then type in ignacio ramirez
to access the linked early tree
http://members.aol.com/gallegjj/viejo.html
for the early guerrero censuses
http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/past/book
for history and photos of some ramirez houses
http://pulido2000.com
for early coahuila and nuevo leon families trees


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