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John Payne and Isaac Payne. Jr., sons of Isaac Payne, Sr. and Sarah Daulton
I have been concerned about some of the inconsistencies and incorrect information I have seen on the two sons of Isaac Payne, Sr. and Sarah Daulton named above.
I found research conducted by Sam Payne in Caroline Co. MD < http://www.r-rfha.com/2004/June2004p4.htm>; which gives answers to some of the concerns I had. Basically, Sam found an Isaac and John Payne serving in militia during Rev. War in Caroline Co., MD, John Payne marrying an Elizabeth Porter (Parker) in 1778, and two John's and two Isaac's in 1783 Tax Assessment. The 1790 Caroline Co. Census shows only Isaac, Sarah and John so Isaac, Sr. is probably deceased by this time. In 1791 there is a record of sale of livestock and household goods from Isaac, Sr. to Isaac, Jr. and a James. (This may be an estate sale after death of Sarah.) The families are gone from Caroline Co. MD records after this.
In the 1800 Rowan Co. NC Census both Isaac and John are listed with children who match the 1790 Census. In May 1801 John Payne is listed as administrator of estate of an Isaac Payne. The 1810 Census does not show an Isaac Payne, but it does show a Nelly Payne who is usually reported to be the wife of Isaac Payne, Jr. John is also gone from Rowan County NC in 1810, but reappears later in Smith County, TN.
From the above information we can see there was an Isaac Payne, Sr., a Sarah Payne, an Isaac Payne, Jr. and a John Payne in Caroline Co. MD in 1770's 1780's and 1790's. By 1800 it appears Isaac Payne, Sr. and Sarah are deceased with Isaac and John joining other brothers in Rowan Co. NC. Apparently, Isaac Payne, Jr. died there in 1801.
Most genealogist claim the John Payne who is the son of Isaac Payne and Sarah Daulton died in Rowan Co. NC in 1784 leaving a wife, Margaret Sutterfield and four children. On the Internet there are listings of this John Payne in 1760s and 1770's in NC with a list of his children born in NC in the1770’s and 1780's. There is nothing to tie them to MD or to Isaac Payne, Sr. and Sarah Daulton. It is very obvious this is a different John Payne. The above information links the John Payne who married Elizabeth to Caroline Co. MD and possibly to Isaac and Sarah.
Since most genealogist think John died in 1784 and knew the names of the children in his will, a problem came up with a number of Payne sons in NC. I have seen seven sons attributed to Isaac Payne, Jr. and his wife, Nelly, born between 1775 and 1800. Again Sam Payne's research helps to answer this question. In the 1790 Caroline Co. MD Census Isaac is shown with one son born between 1775 and 1790 with two possible sons before 1775. John is shown with five sons born between 1775 and 1790. The 1800 Rowan County NC Census shows Isaac with one son 1784 to 1775 and two sons 1774 to 1755. (This matches 1790 information.). John is shown with three sons 1791 to 1800, three sons 1785 to 1790, 2 two sons 1784 to 1775. I think some genealogist need to take another look at who their ancestors are. With eight possible sons born to John, but not recognized, I think there are a lot of errors out there. With only one son born between 1775 and 1790, many of Isaac Payne, Jr.'s listed sons I think are really John’s.
Using this and other information I have been able to track John Payne (and some of his sons and a grandson) from 1770’s Caroline, MD to Rowan, NC to Smith, TN to Boone, MO in 1818.
I would appreciate any comments.
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